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HelenaPF, Valeriane ♫ ♫ ♫¨*, sawsengee, Bruno Suignard and 65 other people have particularly liked this photo


114 comments - The latest ones
 Doug Shepherd
Doug Shepherd club
An excellent creation. Humanity, a scarce resource in these times.

Have a good week, Doug
6 months ago.
* ઇઉ * club has replied to Doug Shepherd club
I'm of the same opinion, Doug, and misanthropy starts with supposedly small things.

Thank you, and have a good rest of the week.
6 months ago.
 raingirl
raingirl club
A really sweet image. It tells a whole story.

And I really like your header image.
6 months ago. Edited 6 months ago.
* ઇઉ * club has replied to raingirl club
Thank you, Laura.
6 months ago.
raingirl club has replied to * ઇઉ * club
*smile*
6 months ago.
* ઇઉ * club has replied to raingirl club
I do. ;))

Best wishes for the new week to you. :)
6 months ago.
 Amelia
Amelia club
You are so good at this. We are all so wrapped up in our own lives that we often ignore the plight of others as we rush around.
6 months ago.
* ઇઉ * club has replied to Amelia club
Many of us live like you describe. Fortunately, there are exceptions.
Thank you, Amelia.
6 months ago.
 Dominique 60
Dominique 60 club
une belle image tres touchante !!
6 months ago.
* ઇઉ * club has replied to Dominique 60 club
Thank you, Dominique.
6 months ago.
 William Sutherland
William Sutherland club
Outstanding and timely creation for the holidays!

Admired in: www.ipernity.com/group/tolerance
6 months ago.
* ઇઉ * club has replied to William Sutherland club
Thank you, William.
6 months ago.
 Jean-Paul
Jean-Paul club
great use of ai
extraordinary pic
6 months ago.
* ઇઉ * club has replied to Jean-Paul club
Thank you, Jean-Paul.
6 months ago.
 tiabunna
tiabunna club
A beautiful street image, remarkable to think it's AI.
6 months ago.
* ઇઉ * club has replied to tiabunna club
The progress in the development of AI is amazing.
Thank you, George.
6 months ago.
 Annemarie
Annemarie club
there is a great lack of.......:(
6 months ago.
* ઇઉ * club has replied to Annemarie club
Indeed, and not only in the physical world …
6 months ago.
 Annemarie
Annemarie club
Have a happy new week!
6 months ago.
* ઇઉ * club has replied to Annemarie club
Have a happy rest of the week. :)
6 months ago.
 Annemarie
Annemarie club
most beautiful work my friend
6 months ago.
* ઇઉ * club has replied to Annemarie club
Thank you, Annamaria.
6 months ago.
 Günter Klaus
Günter Klaus club
Ja,so würde man sich das wünsche liebe * ઇઉ *,was zum Anwärmen,das hast du sehr schön gemacht mit deiner Umsetzung :))

Ich wünsche Dir eine schöne Adventzeit,ganz liebe Grüße Güni :))
6 months ago.
* ઇઉ * club has replied to Günter Klaus club
A small gesture of humanity, yes, that would be desirable.
But many of us are so preoccupied with themselves and fulfilling their own needs that they are blind and deaf to the suffering of others.

Thank you, Günter.
Best wishes for a wonderful Advent season to you as well.
6 months ago.
Günter Klaus club has replied to * ઇઉ * club
Ja,das stimmt liebe * ઇઉ *,man merkt in der heutigen Zeit,dass sehr viele Menschen so unzufrieden sind,obwohl es ihnen echt gut geht,das passiert auch bei mir in meinen Land,ich muss von mir sagen,dass ich heute viel dankbarer geworden bin und mich über die kleinen Dinge des Lebens freuen kann,ich bin ich dankbar,dass ich dieses tolle Hobby Fotografie vor 5 Jahren richtig entdeckt habe,da kann ich meine Freude und meinen Spaß in meine Aufnahmen immer reinbringen :))

Wünsche noch einen schönen Abend,ganz liebe Grüße Güni :))
6 months ago.
 Patrick Brandy
Patrick Brandy club
Belle création bravo bonne journée.
6 months ago.
* ઇઉ * club has replied to Patrick Brandy club
Thank you, Patrick.
Have a nice day, too.
6 months ago. Edited 6 months ago.
 Bergfex
Bergfex club
Ich bin beeindruckt!
Die KI müsste allerdings noch etwas im Hinblick auf den sicheren Umgang mit offenem Feuer geschult werden.
;-))
6 months ago.
* ઇઉ * club has replied to Bergfex club
I helped a little to reduce the risk of fire. ;))
Thank you, Bernhard.
6 months ago.
 Kayleigh
Kayleigh club
Sehr schön ist es geworden!
6 months ago.
* ઇઉ * club has replied to Kayleigh club
Thank you, Kayleigh.
6 months ago.
 Boarischa Krautmo
Boarischa Krautmo club
gut gemacht!
6 months ago.
* ઇઉ * club has replied to Boarischa Krautmo club
Thank you, Markus.
6 months ago.
 sea-herdorf
sea-herdorf club
Eine rühende Szene der Menschlichkeit.
Schöne Grüße und besinnliche Tage im Advent
Erich
6 months ago.
* ઇઉ * club has replied to sea-herdorf club
Thank you, Erich.
I wish you all the best and a wonderful Advent season.
6 months ago.
 RHH
RHH
So happy to see you posting a photo again. Wonderful photo and superbly presented.
6 months ago.
* ઇઉ * club has replied to RHH
Thank you, Ron.
Have a great weekend.
6 months ago.
* ઇઉ * club has added
I'd like to add that this image has been produced using AI, as indicated underneath the image.
3 days ago.
 RHH
RHH
Have a very good day and congratulations on explore.
6 months ago.
 ©UdoSm
©UdoSm club
Well made...
6 months ago.
* ઇઉ * club has replied to ©UdoSm club
Thank you, Udo.
6 months ago.
 Ninfea
Ninfea club
Großartig!!!
6 months ago.
* ઇઉ * club has replied to Ninfea club
Thank you, Agnes.
6 months ago.
 elvigiadelosamaneceres.com
elvigiadelosamanecer… club
Excelente trabajo.
6 months ago.
* ઇઉ * club has replied to elvigiadelosamanecer… club
Thank you, Juan Luis.
6 months ago.
 Ruesterstaude
Ruesterstaude club
Ein tolles Bild, * ઇઉ *! Irgendwie ist die KI erkennbar, ich wüsste aber nicht zu sagen, warum. Vielleicht ist es zu perfekt?
6 months ago.
* ઇઉ * club has replied to Ruesterstaude club
Thank you, Volker.

Perfection is in the eye of the beholder, and the AI is as perfect as its creators.
The image has subsequently been alienated, based on the real development of our global community. Perhaps it is this very similarity that accounts for its supposed perfection.
6 months ago.
 Nora Caracci
Nora Caracci club
great compo and mood !
6 months ago.
* ઇઉ * club has replied to Nora Caracci club
Thank you, Nora.
6 months ago.
 @ngélique ❤️ ABSENTE
@ngélique ❤️ ABSENTE club
C'est splendide mon amie j'adore **********************Belle soirée ઇઉ
bisous !
6 months ago.
* ઇઉ * club has replied to @ngélique ❤️ ABSENTE club
Thank you, Angélique.
Have a great weekend.
6 months ago.
 Diana Australis
Diana Australis club
Have a peaceful and happy week, beautiful friend ❤️
6 months ago.
* ઇઉ * club has replied to Diana Australis club
Thank you, Diana.
Have a peaceful and happy weekend as well. ox
6 months ago.
 RHH
RHH
I've tried AI and will have to post a couple of results, but much prefer doing my own work.
6 months ago.
* ઇઉ * club has replied to RHH
I'm glad you gave the AI a try.
The attempt counts. :)

Have a great week, Ron.
6 months ago.
 RHH
RHH
Have a very good day.
6 months ago.
 Rainer Blankermann
Rainer Blankermann club
Das Foto erzählt eine traurige Geschichte! Tollle Straßenfotografie!
Gerne wüde ich sehen welch einen Anteil KI an der Bildgestaltung hat.
6 months ago.
* ઇઉ * club has replied to Rainer Blankermann club
Thank you, Rainer.

I wish I had had a camera with me when I saw this scene years ago, albeit without the empathetic, friendly man.

Many digital cameras are already starting to use AI for image creation without everyone seeming to be aware of it.

In this case, the amount of AI in the image creation roughly corresponds to my specifications. Note: Like us humans, AI often has a mind of its own. ;)

However, I didn't limit the image creation here to AI, but also used image processing programs that are comparatively simple. However, if one considers that almost everything that has to do with digital photography and electronic image processing is basically nothing else but AI, where and how do you want to start in order to find out and quantify or visualize the contribution of AI to image creation?
6 months ago.
 Madeleine Defawes
Madeleine Defawes club
Superbe image qui traduit bien l'esprit de Noël !
Bon weekend. Amitiés
6 months ago.
* ઇઉ * club has replied to Madeleine Defawes club
Thank you, Madeleine.
Have a nice rest of the week.
Regards
6 months ago.
 Dominique Sarrazin
Dominique Sarrazin club
Magnifique image ! ******************************
6 months ago. Edited 6 months ago.
* ઇઉ * club has replied to Dominique Sarrazin club
Thank you, Dominique.
6 months ago.
 Marije Aguillo
Marije Aguillo club
Preciosa composición.
6 months ago.
* ઇઉ * club has replied to Marije Aguillo club
Thank you, Marije.
6 months ago.
 Marek Ewjan Stachowski
Marek Ewjan Stachows…
lovely picture, scene like from a fairy tale
→ friendly greetings !
6 months ago.
* ઇઉ * club has replied to Marek Ewjan Stachows…
It would be truly fairy-tale if it corresponded to reality.
Thank you, Marek.
6 months ago.
 Dave C
Dave C club
A superb image.
Tells a whole story..

Scary how realistic AI images are becoming.
6 months ago.
* ઇઉ * club has replied to Dave C club
Thank you, Dave.

AI does a great job with image processing and image creation.
However, automated processes cannot replace manual fine-tuning, at least not yet.
6 months ago.
 Esther
Esther club
Kindness and compassion. A lovely image.
6 months ago.
* ઇઉ * club has replied to Esther club
Thank you, Esther.
6 months ago.
 RHH
RHH
Our daughter from N. Ireland comes today and will be with us for a few weeks.
6 months ago.
* ઇઉ * club has replied to RHH
Wishing you a great time, Ron.
6 months ago.
 Nouchetdu38
Nouchetdu38 club
Well done!
EXCELLENT**************************
6 months ago.
* ઇઉ * club has replied to Nouchetdu38 club
Thank you, Nouchet.
6 months ago.
 photosofghosts
photosofghosts club
Not only a hot drink, but also a smile or a word can warm the soul of those who have nothing.
I see that you are familiar with AI, I don't know how it works.... but can we still talk about photography or are we beyond it? I would like to create a debate on this topic.
Warm greetings
Fabio
6 months ago.
* ઇઉ * club has replied to photosofghosts club
A hot drink, some food, a warm smile and appreciative communication combined as in this picture would indeed be wonderful, but many don't even give a word or a smile to those who have nothing.

I doubt that you are unfamiliar with AI, Fabio. ;) You have at least two digital cameras with extensive functions that store image files on memory cards, as is common with this technology. These can be visualized with the electronic image processing of your computer and uploaded to platforms like ipernity. All of this is nothing more than AI.

If you would like to start a debate or participate in discussions about AI-generated images or AI-edited photos, I would recommend joining the group AI Generated Images that Bernhard has created for this purpose.

Thank you, and warm greetings to you, too.
6 months ago.
photosofghosts club has replied to * ઇઉ * club
Mine wasn't a criticism of your work, dear ઇઉ!
I'm not an expert on the subject, but photography, whether analogue or digital, requires human creative input, both at the moment of shooting and at the moment of editing. On the computer I have seen works with pure fantasy IA, such as the Pope with the down jacket....
I repeat, I am not an expert and I wish you all the best for a Happy New Year!
Fabio
6 months ago.
* ઇઉ * club has replied to photosofghosts club
Dear Fabio, I didn't interpret your comment as a criticism of my work.

Whether using an analog or digital camera or an AI generator, human creative input is always necessary. Without it, achieving meaningful and acceptable results is impossible. The difference lies in the fact that each technology requires different areas of our brain. Thereby, using AI is not less demanding than using a camera.

Best wishes for a Happy New Year to you and your loved ones.
5 months ago.
Eric Desjours club has replied to * ઇઉ * club
I'm sorry, dear friend, despite my admiration for such an achievement and all that it expresses, as your following pictures do, I don't know who to congratulate between the computer and you, between your undeniable art and the part that falls to AI.

Q: If Michelangelo had used the computer to compose the Sistine Chapel, would he be as honored today?

To pick up on your exchange with Fabio and discussions I've had elsewhere: I think there's an unfathomable difference between the source and the product.
The source can be very diverse, also a product of both computer and AI or from elsewhere. It's only the result that we can judge. And that we honor as an artistic production, i.e. as the final, sensitive and estimable human contribution/creativity.

I know I use many technologies to achieve my publication on ipernity. The fact remains that my final (when not initial) work is the fruit of my labor, of my hands & of my creativity, even if they meanwhile manipulate the settings & click on the camera, the mouse and keyboard to command the tools provided by Gimp, then the download button provided by ipernity. What's just crafting in relation to my "artistic" sense.

In these compositions that you and several members are proposing, it's impossible to distinguish the individual creative part from that of the computer. I find that they all look rather the same from an artistic point of view (which makes me think that AI tends to level out not only creativity but also the social space where it is increasingly introduced), and this bothers me because, although I'm not a photographer, the subject isn't enough for me to differentiate and appreciate works of this type. So I remain skeptical, or rather circumspect.

I contributed to the "AI Generated Images" group, tab "Artificial intelligence and the future of photography", without response. This doesn't seem to be mobilizing members's consciences. Or the group's promotion is not enough. Or maybe... the "old-time" photographers just don't care?! :)
I think you're one of the most relevant contributors & interlocutor on the subject, hence this comment. But I'm willing to continue the debate in a more public forum.

Within contemporary music, my specialty, the contribution of computers dates back to the 50s. I've learned to distinguish between the computer tools and the composer. In this new discipline of IA-assisted photography (which also affects music), I'm unable. Perhaps it's an apprenticeship I'm lacking. But in the absence of demonstrations and explanations, among others in your work, I'm unable to give an opinion - just like Fabio ;)
5 months ago.
* ઇઉ * club has replied to Eric Desjours club
Dear Eric, please do not rack your brain with the question of whom you should congratulate and whether Michelangelo would be honored in the same way today if he had composed the Sistine Chapel by using a computer, because "it is the result that we can judge, and that we appreciate as an artistic production (…)", as you yourself write.

If it is impossible for you to distinguish the individual creative part from that of the computer, I would like to invite you to try it yourself, to put an image from your memory or from your imagination into words and visualize it using an AI image generator, if you haven't done so yet. But be careful, please. ;) Immediate, 100% success is rather rare. The best possible results require appropriate input from the user — and their patience.

In my opinion, a “leveling out” of creativity is due to the immaturity of the AI Image Generators. However, they are constantly being improved.
I can empathize with the fact that the “levelling” by AI in the social space bothers you, but I hope that each individual will think about it for themselves and make responsible decisions based on both their own and the common good.

Several ipernity members have a clear aversion to AI-generated images and show it in different ways, although ipernity has been a platform not only for photographers, but also for artists and creative image creators (digital art, etc.) since its foundation.
(Artists and creative image creators seem to have been systematically marginalized and scared away for some years now - a development that gives cause for concern.)
In my opinion, this proves that the conscience of the members does not have to be mobilized first, even if some of their approaches to the topic are rather questionable and memorable.

I do not think that I am one of the most relevant contributors, and interlocutors on this topic, but I am happy to participate in an objective exchange of views, as far as my commitments within and outside ipernity allow. However, it would be beneficial for everyone if such discussions were actually held in a public forum - here: AI Generated Images - which, in addition to the possibility of posting such images, has also been set up specifically for this purpose.

I am a little surprised that you are talking about a new AI-supported photography, as this did not just start with the very latest achievements of digital cameras/digital photography. ;)

As for the last paragraph of your comment, I would like to come back to the second paragraph of my reply and encourage you once again to try it yourself, as the proof of the pudding is in the eating. ;)
However, please note the difference between images created with an AI image generator and photos taken with a digital camera. :)
5 months ago. Edited 5 months ago.
* ઇઉ * club has added
Re the following part of your comment in the group, “As a computer scientist, I'm captivated by artistic creation using computers - especially music. But only when it allows the expression of the soul of an artist or a person.
I create sometimes random music. After listening to it for 5 minutes, I move on to something else and forget about it. For me, 100% AI compositions fall into this category.
”, I would like to add:

In image processing or image generation, AI enables the expression of an artist's or person's soul. This includes both AI-edited photos and 100% AI-generated images based on the user's own text or photo.
You can see this not only in the posts in the AI Generated Images group.

I would like to invite you once again to try it for yourself and ask you to delve deep into yourself when entering text for 100% AI creations to convince yourself that AI, although still immature, allows the individual expression of the soul of the person and the artist.
5 months ago.
* ઇઉ * club has added
Dear Eric, today, January 21, 2024, a final, concluding addition from my side.

There has certainly been no shortage of advertising for the group in question, whose description, as I said, states that it was also set up to discuss AI. There may be many reasons why you have not yet received a readable response to your comment there. One of them is widespread human laziness - and the cause of this is certainly not AI.

The Königsberg philosopher I. Kant said in 1784 not for nothing - loosely translated from a Latin proverb - "Sapere aude! Have courage to use your own reason!"
5 months ago.
 RHH
RHH
I've wondered the same thing as Fabio, though even if AI takes over, I intend to continue doing photography.
6 months ago.
* ઇઉ * club has replied to RHH
Dear Ron, like Fabio and most other photographers, you take pictures with an extensively equipped digital camera and use a computer to process the images and upload them to the Internet. Welcome to the age of AI. ;))
6 months ago.
 RHH
RHH
Have a good day and a good weekend, my friend.
6 months ago.
* ઇઉ * club has replied to RHH
Have a greet start to the new week, Ron. :)
6 months ago.
 Heide
Heide club
Ein warmer Tee und Gebäck- das ist gut für den Körper und die Seele.
Sehr schöne Szene, eine feine Bildarbeit.
6 months ago.
* ઇઉ * club has replied to Heide club
Thank you, Heide.
6 months ago.
 RHH
RHH
Happy holidays!
6 months ago.
* ઇઉ * club has replied to RHH
Thank you, Ron.
Merry Christmas to you and your loved ones, too.
6 months ago.
 RHH
RHH
Just learned our handicapped son has covid.
6 months ago.
* ઇઉ * club has replied to RHH
I hope and wish your handicapped son that he will overcome the infection without complications - and I wish you all the strength you need.
Take care and stay strong!
6 months ago.
RHH has replied to * ઇઉ * club
He seems to be doing okay though e is in isolation.
6 months ago.
 RHH
RHH
All the plans for the next few days ave changed.
6 months ago.
 Nicole Merdrignac
Nicole Merdrignac club
Superbe photo de cette scène. Bonne soirée. Nicole .
6 months ago.
* ઇઉ * club has replied to Nicole Merdrignac club
Thank you, Nicole.
All the best for 2024.
5 months ago.
 RHH
RHH
All the best for another day.
6 months ago.
* ઇઉ * club has replied to RHH
Thank you, Ron.
Best wishes for 2024 to you and your loved ones.
5 months ago.
 Annemarie
Annemarie club
⭐⭐⭐Happy Holidays⭐⭐⭐

Thanks
6 months ago.
* ઇઉ * club has replied to Annemarie club
Thank you, Annamaria.
All the best for 2024 to you and yours.
5 months ago.