Social Medias : present your pictures ! [EN][FR]

You already know about my thoughts.

Best of luck with this.

It would make Ipernity more attractive if Articles and Documents were included in the NEWS in the same way as Photographs are and that Documents cease to be restricted to direct contact friends.

I am not so lucky with fb-TOS concerning pictures, this is one of the reasons for me using ipernity instead of fb. So the "ideally CC"-License is a great idea; from my perspective this should be mandatory. What I do not understand is the aim of this goup here? If I share a picture in this group, you will duplicate the picture into fb-picture storage?

The creation of the group is aiming to help us to find shareable qualitative pictures.
The "what's hot" is a good source but a good part of the pictures aren't open to share.

I still not understand what you will do if you "find a good picture to share", when it was posted to this group? Repost it as link on facebook? Upload it on facebook?

We will use the share button.
It won't be uploaded in Facebook as a file.

This is a good idea! Hopefully this embedded link won't be broken ;-)

We know that a part of you don't like those place and we respect your choice, so we aren't pressuring anyone to participate !

Good for you and I wish the Team well in all it's efforts and I'll happily help ensure a good future for Ipernity. But, I'm so sorry, I just don't do that Facebook thing, or any other 'social media' stuff for that matter (Ipernity excepted).

Thanks everyone, your support is truly appreciated !

If it helps Ip then I wish you good luck, however It's not for me but at least I have the choice.

Good luck with promoting Ipernity, certainly we need more members.

Facebook or not is not so important
Much more important is the fact that Ipernity shows more and more activity.

Facebook n'a pas la même politique de respect des photos .................donc pas très intéressant

Bonjour, il s'agit de publier un lien vers vos photos, pas de les héberger sur Facebook.

Anything that promotes Ipernity has got to be a Good Thing, but I have not signed up with Facebook, nor have any intention of doing so.

Hello, it isn't necessary to have a Facebook account to participate :)

Many thanks for your prompt reply, but I would not entrust any images of mine to Facebook.

"You remain owner of your work."

On Facebook?!? You won´t even remain the owner if you post your own work there. If you post an image on facebook facebook gets the permission to use it for his own pleasure.
(even if it´s linked to ipernity)

I am OK with that, but saying "You remain owner of your work" is a pretty shortened view about facebooks policies.

If you share a link on facebook, the contents of this link are not suddenly under the TOS of facebook. Ipernity use link share option, and do not upload the picture itself to facebook, so I don´t see the problem you are talking about?

Anybody can post a link to your work on Facebook if you share it in public mode.
The share button is useful to have a correct preview but it DON'T host a file there; we are sharing an URL.
Anyway, as we said before we won't force anyone to participate but please don't make false allegations.

So happy that work is being done to promote ipernity. Thanks Audrey for your part in the promotion and also for replying to people's comments. I appreciate your respectful way of communicating. Merci et bonne chance!

Potrebbe essere una buona idea!

Thanks !

Les réseaux sociaux c'est le mal du WEB !!!!!

Personnellement Je ne tiens pas à mélanger les deux .....Mais ça reste un choix personnel ...

If I wanted my images on social media sites I would join them and not rely on third parties to post for me.

Precisely !!

Hello Roger,
We are trying to make ipernity more visible, don't forget that fact.
But as we stated before we are not forcing anyone to join these attempt of promotion in Social Networks.

bien dit Roger !!

Thankfully there is a choice...

As such....(and Lone Wadi.. I am FULLY in the 21st Century ) I dont welcome any connection to faceless and the rest.

I am sure Ipernity will do what it feels is best for its own concerns ...

As I said.. Thankfully there is a choice.

Hello Pam,
Agreed, this is the key : you have the choice.
We're not enforcing anyone. We need promotion, we are working out ways to do so : social networks is part of the solution.

Audrey I welcome the attempts to keep ipernity alive and well and to continue sharing and
encouraging others to join and get the pleasure from the site that we all have experienced
and agree, everyone has choices, that means us and yourselves who are doing their very
best to respond to the wishes of us all that you keep the site open and running and not to
close down. Social media is with us now and will continue to be, we can embrace changes
or resist them. Facebook is a link for many to keep in touch, those who do not take
photos and wish to share with friends their everyday lives, in the same way that we do
through our photography, indeed ;-) we interact with each other in the same way as those
on facebook do ;-) have made friends and enjoy the interaction. I salute your efforts and
wish you success. Might I ask one question please, I might be asking something that is
very obvious but I seek clarification please. If we link to Facebook through you in the
new venture, if a photo is posted to your new group on Facebook, does this automatically
show up on anyone's Facebook page ? or only in the new Facebook Group ?

Best wishes and keep up the innovative new work, Bev

Hello Bev,
Thank you for the kind words, much appreciated !

I'm gonna answer you largely so it is more clear for everybody.

The "facebook group" is on ipernity "ipernity in social media"
If you tag a picture in the group we may or may not sharing it on our Facebook page, we are selecting the best pictures.
Having a facebook account is not necessary.

About the share of content on our Facebook page :
- we share link with the share tool
- a preview of the picture is viewable on the page
- no file is hosted
- the audience is : our fans, friends of fans who have shared or liked the post, anybody opening our page even not logged, selected people with a marketing sharing, etc...

The first goal is to promote ipernity and gain a new audience.
New audience for us equal new audience for your work and some may enjoy the idea.

We would like to make clear that ipernity needs new users. It cannot stay a little "private" club, but we're aiming to stay a "human" website not a "faceless" place.

Anyways, we're open to discussion :)

Hi Audrey,
Ah, now I begin to understand what all this is about because I have now found the group 'IPERNITY IN SOCIAL MEDIA':
www.ipernity.com/group/socialmedias

So it seems I personally don't actually have to do any linking or liking or have anything to do with FB then. Cool.

Exactly, having Facebook is not necessary.
Imagine this as a test phase, we are "feeling around".

Many thanks Audrey for your clear and concise reply .. ;-) and best of luck with the exploration of new ideas, Bev

I am sure you right Audrey, It is an issue for me as my subscription is now due for renewal, as one of the many refugees from Flickr I would hate to see IP make changes against the wishes of the membership the way that they did,
It was the rush to make it social media friendly that caused the problems and drove many to IP in the first place, however I am confident we are in good hands and that other ways can be found to make this site more visible .

This is a test, we are still searching and examining the best way to promote.
Thank you Roger.

J'adore Ipernity, j'y suis fidèle depuis 2007 et même si je préfère y poster mes amusements de façons partagées avec des amis dont la plupart ont été rencontrés dans "la vraie vie" grâce et par l'intermédiaire de cette superbe plate-forme, je trouve nécessaire d'explorer toutes les pistes qui pourront permettre d'assurer sa pérennité. L'idée de partage de liens avec le réseau de Mr Zuckerberg pourra peut-être participer à ce "sauvetage", mais j'en doute. Ceux d'entre nous qui désirent une plus grande visibilité et un partage plus vaste de leurs photographies ont depuis longtemps ouvert un compte facebook, flickr, et j'en passe, tandis que ceux qui s'en sont abstenus, par choix personnels maintiendront leurs réticences à l'idée d'un partage "hors-cadre". Choix que je comprend et approuve tant j'ai de mal à quitter mon Iper. Ceci n'apporte pas pour autant une réponse au problème. Qu'est-ce qui fait le succès d'un espace comme le notre ? (Je me l'approprie quelques instant, histoire de me sentir vraiment concerné par la question.) Pour moi, la première réponse qui vient est : le dynamisme. Et là, je me sens vraiment mal, car le dynamisme, c'est un peu l'affaire de tous ! Mais je suis aussitôt rassuré car c'est aussi en partie à ceux qui sont au commandes de l'insuffler. Et là, je vais faire un peu d'histoire en rappelant qu'entre décembre 2014 et janvier 2016, la seule communication du team fut de nous avertir qu'un compte avait été usurpé. Ce qui, question dynamisme concernant les trolls et autres ne pouvait que nous rassurer, tandis que la plate-forme s'enfonçait doucement dans un ronronnement, jusqu'à l'endormissement.
Je rêve de l'Iper d'autrefois... Des Iper-meeting, les "vrais" ceux organisés par Christian, Chritophe et les autres. On avait au moins la sensation que "ça bougeait" ! Nous sommes sur une plate-forme fréquentée par une majorité de photographe dont le dernier événement en la matière remonte à... là :
www.ipernity.com/blog/team/245574
(2010 pour les flemmards qui ne suivront pas ce lien)
Récapitulons; un an sans nouvelles des"organisateurs" qui je le crois et je l'espère avaient mieux à faire pour notre confort que de communiquer. Et six ans sans évènement "physique, dans la vie réelle". Je pense que certaines causes de nos maux sont à chercher dans ces remarques.
Lors de l'expo de 2010, j'avais eu le plaisir de passer la soirée où se trouvaient Christian Conti et Christophe Ruelle et je leur avait fait remarquer (mais certainement pas assez fort) que je m'étonnais déjà à l'époque qu'une plate-forme d'hébergement majoritairement photographique, basée dans le sud de la France, ne recherche pas de connexions avec l' ENSP d'Arles et même avec Les rencontres photographiques.
Car enfin, pourquoi aller en Californie chercher des solutions qui peuvent être trouvées en Provence ? (Je sais que tout le monde n'aime pas forcément ma forme d'humour et je prie cette insignifiante partie de bien vouloir m'excuser.)
Mon intervention pourrait donc se résumer à une réflexion : J'aimerais qu'Iper regarde plus attentivement les raisons qui ont fait son succès, plutôt que de chercher à attirer l'attention d'un rouleau compresseur, histoire d'aplanir sa route. Ceci a le mérite de me forcer à réfléchir avant de renouveler les deux comptes payants que j'ai ouvert dans mon espace de récréation préféré.

Bonjour,
Merci pour toutes vos réflexions, elles sont pertinentes et précieuses !
Et si l'on ne peut pas changer le passé, nous allons prochainement débuter une série de réunions pour réévaluer le modèle ipernity et le faire évoluer (sans en changer toutefois ses fondements).
Nous en parlerons avec les utilisateurs qui le désirent.

Sorry but not being a person that understands computers or their functions, (I just follow instructions) I found the whole experience of linking to Facebook an absolute nightmare by doing exactly what the Ipernity blog told me to do. At the end of it all when Ipernity pop up told me I had successfully linked to facebook, could I find any reference to Ipernity on my Facebook page or time line? No not one bit of information anywhere.
SIGNING BACK INTO IPERNITY WAS JUST AS BAD. I had to get a friend to sort my computer out and reverse all the settings I had previously set up. No I will stick to uploading my own photos to my Facebook page, it's much easier.

Hello,

As we specified in the article, you don't need to have a Facebook account to submit your picture.

All you have to do is activate the Share Button here :
https://www.ipernity.com/pref/socialnetwork
> Sharing on social networks
(So your visitors will be able to share your PUBLIC content.)

And we will share (after a selection) the picture submitted in the "ipernity in social media" group on our page here :
www.facebook.com/ipernity

I hope it's more clear.

Le site ZPhotos le fait déjà........................J'ai vu des centaines de photos proposées pêle-mêle au regard du premier venu....................Je trouve ce procédé d'une tristesse absolue.

La photo noie le regard.................et c'est l'indigestion assurée.
La pudeur s'envole dans un déchaînement d'images.......et une avalanche d'un produit devenu trop commun.

Bravo,Georges! Vous l'avez dit pour moi aussi.

Les images sont partout, qu'on zappe à notre gré , distraitement, avec désinvolture, et l'attitude des gens face à elles est tout autre que le recueillement et la réflexion de nos ancêtres devant une bonne peinture.
L'art devient une distraction.A quoi bon, puisqu'on zappe, de toute manière...
.

Nothing new.

Deafening silence (again) for non-Facebookers !!

Well, we made an article about our battle with spam 2 weeks ago.
Don't expect to have an article each week. As we already stated, we are working with a really small team which means we are dealing slowly. But we're here and open to dialogue ! :)

I think you know that I admire all you've done since coming on board Audrey and in particular the success you've had in this war against spam and bogus accounts.

However, I do wonder what is happening in general with securing the long term future of ipernity and it's obvious from some of the comments posted above that I'm far from being alone in having these concerns.

At the beginning of the year there were a great many users, myself included, who came forward with ideas and suggestions on what Team Ipernity might do either on their own or working with the membership in partnership to ensure the site's long term survival.

The question I have then is what has happened to all of those ideas and suggestions?

I fully appreciate Audrey that you're few in number and can't do everything at once, but several months on from those ideas being submitted I would have thought there might have been more news or even some evidence that at least some of them were being developed, investigated, trialled or introduced.

As I said in my opening comments I do appreciate what you've done and are trying to do with regards tackling spam accounts and also the way you're trying to promote the site more through other social media.

My overriding concern though is that these initiatives on their own will not be enough to 'save' the site in the long term, which is why I'm asking if there is more being done behind the scenes that you can tell us about or more we can do to assist you?

Hello Paul,

As it's been stated in the UPTIME article, the team first decided to let ipernity "as is" for the year coming. The many support and ideas we received changed our mind !

But the reality is here : we are working with a really reduced team and we cannot fully develop for the moment. So we're trying to first fix large issues and small bugs, it takes time (lot of time). We're planning to work with some of you (IT, developers etc) on open source, again it's taking time to move and secure the operation.

So please, be patient.

And for those who are using Social Media, help us by liking, commenting, sharing post :-)